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Advise about travel to Argentina?

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Tags: Places To Stay, Tango, Travel Argentina, Travel To Argentina

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Inquisinatrix asked:


I am considering a trip to Argentina this summer, perhaps Buenos Aires. Am interested in improving my tango and Spanish. Any suggestions for how to prepare from those who have lived / visited there? Good places to stay…milongas?

Makayla

Comments (4) Sep 20 2009

Whats the cheapest way to travel from London to barbados and then to argentina, returning back to london?

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Tags: Argentina, Barbados, Cheapest Travel, Swimming, Travel London

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Adam asked:


hi all…

whats the cheapest possible way to get from london-barbados-argentina and back to london?

Apart from swimming?

Xavier

Comments (1) Sep 19 2009

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Tags: Castilian Spanish, Catalan, Latin America, Minority Cultures, Regional Language

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Scott Ferree asked:


First, I’d like to clear up a common misconception: “Castellano” and “español” are two words for the same thing - and both words mean Spanish. If someone asks you, “¿Hablás castellano?” they want to know if you speak Spanish, not if you speak “Argentine.” I only point this out because many students, when they first come to Argentina, will think that castellano is a word which refers to the Argentine variety of Spanish, but in fact it simply means Spanish.

So why are there two words for Spanish: “español” and “castellano” and why do you more commonly hear the latter when people are speaking in Spanish?

It has to do with the modern-day politics of Spain, and in particular, the relationship of Spain’s minority cultures and languages to the dominant (Castilian) language and culture. It’s more politically correct to say “castellano” rather than “español” - because by saying the latter you are, in effect, belittling the other regional languages of Spain (such as Basque and Catalan) which are in fact also Spanish languages in the sense of being languages that are spoken in Spain. Castellano was, itself, once only a regional language of Spain, and even though it’s now the dominant language, calling it “castellano” instead of “español” is - it is thought - more respectful to the minority cultures, since it puts all of the languages of the Iberian Peninsula on a, more or less, even linguistic footing. (In spite of this, Spanish, on the other hand, continues to be the preferred word in foreign circles when the language is referred to as a second language, hence giving rise to the confusion.)

However, that’s neither here nor there, because the Spanish which is spoken in Latin America is all castellano, or Castilian Spanish.

The variety of Castilian Spanish which is spoken in Argentina’s capital city, meanwhile, is known as the castellano del Río de la Plata, so named for the river which bisects the region and separates Argentina from Uruguay to the north.

Argentines will be the first to admit - proudly, because they are a very proud people - that their way of speaking Spanish is one-of-a-kind. The Spanish which is spoken in Buenos Aires is marked by strong immigrant influences - notably that of the Italians. In addition, this Spanish has conserved certain traits of bygone eras, most notably the use of the “vos” pronoun (which, with its 17th century echoes, sometimes strikes other Spanish speakers as amusing, somewhat akin to what it would sound like to hear modern day English spoken with a Shakespearian “thee”). Finally, the Spanish of the Río de la Plata is highly inventive and is noted for its use of local slang, known as “lunfardo.”

Here are a few of the principal traits of Argentine Spanish, with examples (you can skip this part if you don’t already speak some Spanish):

1) The pronoun “vos.” The pronoun “vos,” even though ubiquitous and a little jarring at first, is actually remarkably easy to use and to get used to. The “vos” simply replaces the informal you (tú) pronoun. Verbs are conjugated by dropping the last letter “r” of the infinitive, replacing it with an “s,” and adding an accent to the final syllable of the verb. The conjugation is thus significantly more regular than it is with the “tú” pronoun, which is wrought with irregular forms. Examples of the use of “vos” include: “Vos vivís en Argentina” (You live in Argentina.) “Vos hablás castellano.” (You speak Spanish.) The only irregular verb used with “vos” is the verb “ser”. This is conjugated with “sos” (in place of “eres” from the tú form). Example: “Vos sos de Argentina.” (You are from Argentina). In the other tenses (past, future, conditional, and subjunctive, “vos” is conjugated in exactly the same way as “tú.”)

2) The letters ll and y in Argentine Spanish are pronounced with a soft sh sound. Example: “Yo me llamo” sounds like “sho me shamo”; or “calle” is pronounced like “cashe.”

3) Lunfardo. These can include sometimes untranslatable words such as “vivo” - a word that is used to denote a person who can get away with things; a hustler. A related term is “avivarse”: to get wise to things; gain experience; learn not to get taken advantage of. Another popular expression, with origins in lunfardo, is “che” which is roughly equivalent to the English “hey.” Certain Argentines use the word “che” all the time, especially when they’re angry. As in “Che, what are you doing? Che, where are you going? Che, get back here!” This way of speaking was how Ernesto “Che” Gueverra, apparently an easily frustrated person, was given his nickname.

4) Other words. Mainly related to food. Examples: Peach: known in many Spanish-speaking countries as melocotón; in Argentina (and Mexico), durazno. Strawberry: known in other Spanish-speaking countries as fresa; in Argentina, frutilla.

The point, if you’re attempting to learn the language, is not to get overwhelmed. The similarities between Argentine Spanish and other varieties to which you might have had more prior exposure are really much greater than the differences, which are mostly fairly minor. Give yourself a few days at the beginning of your stay to get used to the new accent and to hearing the word “vos” thrown around, and within no time you’ll be having a great time expanding your knowledge of “lunfardo” and benefitting from those things - language related or not - which make a stay in Argentina truly unique.

A final note: it’s not necessary to learn how to speak Spanish exactly like an Argentine does. If you’ve already learned to speak Spanish using the “tú” form, don’t worry, Argentines will be able to understand you (though they’ll most likely respond to you with “vos.”) Many of the students at our language school choose to focus on learning the “tú” form of most verbs, since in future travels, or upon returning to their home countries, they will need to be familiar with this form of Spanish usage. The important thing is that you are exposed to how the language is used, both in Argentina and in other countries, so that you are able to react and respond to the language, however and wherever it’s spoken.



Xavier

Comments (0) Sep 19 2009

Travel Tips! How can I find work grape-picking in wineries in Chile and Argentina ?

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Tags: Argentina, Chile, Travel Tips, Wineries, Workers On Organic Farms

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moopoo asked:


When does the season start/end?

Other than WWOOFing (Willing Workers On Organic Farms), how do I find work?

Any other tips?

Brady

Comments (2) Sep 19 2009

What are high schools like in Argentina?

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Tags: Argentina Travel, Exchange Student, High Schools

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Riah asked:


I am going to be an exchange student next year to Argentina (I don’t know what city yet). I’ve done research on Argentina itself, but travel books and websites focus on the tourist-y parts of Argentina. My question is what are the high schools like in Argentina and what does a typical highschooler do in a day?

Thanks!

Maricel

Comments (1) Sep 14 2009

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Tags: Andes Mountains, Educational Experience, Internship Program, New Language, Volunteer Projects

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Casey Markee asked:


Have you ever wanted to learn Spanish? Have you ever thought about visiting Argentina? You can do both by taking Spanish classes offered by schools in Argentina. Spanish classes are offered by different schools in the cities of Buenos Aires, Mendoza, and Patagonia. Choose which city you would like to visit and which school best fits your needs for a Spanish educational experience and get started.

Below are seven reasons why you should make the trip today and why Argentina may be the most perfect destination in the world to fine-tune your grasp of the Spanish language.

1. IMMERSION - Immersion into a foreign language is a quick and beneficial way to learn any new language, and there are a number of schools in Argentina that teach students Spanish (or Castellano) through summer classes, semester classes, internships, and volunteer projects. The Spanish language is now the fourth most spoken language in the world, the second language in the international community, and the official language of twenty-one nations. Argentina is one of the largest countries in South America and the eighth largest in the world, home to the Andes mountains, the Patagonia pampa or desert, emerald rivers and a vast array of wildlife.

2. INTERNSHIPS - Internships are available in Buenos Aries thru http://www.gicarg.org. GIC Argentina, one of the largest providers of such services in the region, will place you with a company in your field of interest that will work with you to have real life work experience combined with the business vocabulary necessary to further your career. Your internship placement will be based on your knowledge of the language before you arrive. You will generally work normal business hours, generally 30 to 40 hours a week. Your work program can be combined with tango lessons, cooking lessons, or weekend excursions. At the end of your internship, GIC Argentina and your employer, will give you a certificate of participation in the internship program.

3. CLASSES - Classes are offered from a variety of schools in Argentina for learning Spanish thru the immersion method. http://www.iberospanish.com offers Beginner I thru Superior classes with both group and individual instruction with 20 to 40 hours per week of learning. http://www.abcspanish.com.ar offers a wide variety of classes from individual to group, to combined classes to fit your needs. GIC Argentina gives you three locations to learn from: Buenos Aries, Mendoza, and Patagonia. The Buenos Aries location offers the best of city life in downtown along with historical and cultural locations near by for excursions. The Mendoza campus, located in the wine country of Argentina, has a strong liberal arts curriculum that includes degrees in Business, Journalism, and International Relations. The campus in Patagonia is located at the Universidad F. A. Santo Tomas de Aquino. It is a private university located in the heart of the Nahuel Huapi National Park, combining your Spanish education with outdoor sports such as rafting, snowboarding, hiking, and rock climbing.

4. COST - The cost for classes range from as little as $18.00US for individual intensive classes that helps you design a course suited to your needs at ABC Spanish, to intensive Spanish classes for $380US a week for combined group and individual lessons. The Ibero Spanish School offers all books and necessary materials, maps, cinema lessons and a city tour for 4 weeks starting at $460.00US. Classes from GIC Argentina range from $1,190.00US for a 1 month student resident to $8835.00US for 6 months in a private apartment. The current exchange rate for the US dollar to the Argentine Peso (ARP) is 3 to 1, making excursions, cooking lessons, or tango lessons available even to those on a budget.

5. ACCOMMODATIONS - While learning Spanish in Argentina you can choose the type of accommodations that fit both your budget and your travel plans. Each Spanish School can help you with a variety of stay types to fit your needs. You can expect each type of Spanish school in Argentina to offer homestays with local families in a single furnished room or residence halls where you can have your choice of stay in either single, double, triple or quad rooms with maid service. Some schools also have two or three bedroom apartments available with single occupancy rooms. If more privacy is required, they also offer single occupancy apartments with your choice of studio or one bedroom.

6. EXCURSIONS - There are many excursions available to explore while in Argentina. In the Mesopotamia region the Iguaza Falls is an amazing range of approximately 270 falls that spans 2.7 kilometers (1.67 miles) rising up to 269 feet in height, providing a beautiful natural landscape and abundant outdoor activities. The Mendoza province boasts most of the wine vineyards in Argentina with an annual festival called Vendimia every March that includes wine tasting, folkloric festivals, the religious grape blessing ceremony and the crowing of the Reina Nacional de la Vendimia. Patagonia features the largest lake in Argentina, Lake Argentino, which lies within the Los Glaciares National Park.

7. RESUME - The benefits of adding the Spanish language to your resume or college transcript is endless. With the amount of business that is part of the international community today, the ability to put Spanish as a second language on your resume will make your more appealing to many companies worldwide. More and more companies today are hiring Spanish-speaking employees or setting up call centers with Spanish as an alternative option to English when asking for information. The US Census Bureau estimates that by July 1, 2007, there will be over 43 million people of Hispanic or Latino origin in the United States. With the growing population of Spanish speaking individuals in the US, the ability to be bilingual will put you ahead of monolingual career candidates.

With so many reasons to learn Spanish in Argentina why wait? Classes start each week with each school, check websites for specific information. The number of people learning Spanish is increasing every day, and you could be one of them.

What are you waiting for?



Enrico

Comments (0) Sep 11 2009

Traveling to Chile and Argentina. What are the best cultural books to read beforeI travel?

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Tags: Bariloche, Buenos Aires, Chile, Patagonia, Traveling

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RuffRuff asked:


Buenos Aires, Bariloche (Patagonia), and Santiago…

Gianna

Comments (5) Sep 08 2009

Travel Help Argentina - Buenos Aires?

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Tags: Apartment Rental, Buenos Aires, Cheap Apartment, Palermo, Travel Help

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anard6822 asked:


Traveling to Argentina in November with 4 people. Looking to stay in a nice but cheap place close to Palermo. Anyone know of a cheap apartment rental or hotel. I am a little weary of staying in a hostel.

Thanks!

Stacy

Comments (3) Sep 07 2009

Hi, i´m from argentina, and i am looking for directions to travel form raleigh to charlotte?

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Tags: Argentina, Bobcats Arena, Directions Travel, Nba Game, Train

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mariano g asked:


I would like to go to a bobcats game, or any nba game, while i am in the states, so i would like to know what are the available options and the directions to go from raleigh to charlotte, by train or by bus, i have no car so i really need to know how to get to the bobcats arena, by train or bus, and what are the costs (i need the less expensive ones) thanks a lot, regards

Landon

Comments (5) Sep 06 2009

To travel to Argentina do i nee d a visa?

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Tags: Argentina Visa, Travel Argentina, Travel To Argentina

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asapabrasha72 asked:


If yes where can a obtain?

Eugene

Comments (1) Sep 02 2009

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